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"Alter Der Ruine was realized in May of 2005 by Mike Jenney. The band quickly emerged into the Arizona scene after it's high octane debut gig at Club Asylum in Tucson, AZ. Instantly shows were booked statewide for AZ. Fetish events, various clubs, and the infamous Sadisco* gathering. A.D.R. has opened for bands such as Dismantled, Psyclon 9, Snog, Noise Terror, Still Life Decay, 45 Grave and more. The band released it's debut album, "The Ruine Process" in August of 2006. Immediate success of the release took them on a small West Coast tour playing at venues including Das Bunker, Quarantine, Infirmary & Palladium in TJ Mexico." I recently had the pleasure of interviewing the entirety of Alter Der Ruine. For more infos check out: http://www.ruine-process.com/

Introduce yourself; who are you, what do you do?

Mike J: Programming, live drums, production

Mike T: Programming, live drums/keys

Xian: Musician/Percussionist

Jacob: Keyboards, additional drums

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What is Alter Der Ruine // Can you provide us with a brief bio of the project?

Mike T: Well the band was started in 2005 by Mike J. and so it is a story only he can tell. My version includes a hornless unicorn and is far superior but alas, it is not my tale to proclaim.

Mike J: ADR was started in 2005 as a quasi political noise band. It was an outlet from another band created to delve into the more experimental noise and rhythmic noise genres.

Xian: Alter Der Ruine was created in May 2005 by Mike Jezzy. After releasing the debut album "The Ruine-Process" Mike Treveloni joined the band then Xian [R]. We signed to Los Angeles based record label Sistinas Music and work began on "State of Ruin". On completion of the album Jacob Rouse joined the band.

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Why did you choose this name to represent this project?

Mike J: At the time I was under the impression it was the German translation for Age of Ruin, which I've since come to learn is not the case, but regardless it sounds cool and it's been the name for too long to do anything about.

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What do you hope to accomplish with Alter Der Ruine / with music in general?

Mike J: So far it's been a reason to travel and I love playing music so it works out really well. I really enjoy writing and playing music and getting people to dance.

Xian: Longevity and have fun doing it!

Jacob: I hope for this to be something that I can do for a long time, and just make music that people like to listen to and watch live.

Mike T: Well, making some money back would be nice, but we really chose the wrong genre to profit off of so to say that really makes us (me) look stupid.. We just love making music. We like traveling and playing to new crowds and completely being a surprise to whoever catches us.

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How did you get into power noise / harsh industrial music? Why do you choose to create it?

Mike J: My wife tamara (DJ plastic Disease) got me into it. I'd always liked it but she pushed me to actually make it. I also enjoy sound design and especially the type of sound that the noise genre can get away with.

Mike T: For me it started a few years back when my roommate at the time got me back into industrial music (we had a slight falling out for a while). Once I had settled into ebm it was only a matter of time before noise came calling. The first CD I picked up was FFWD>Burnout by Hypnoskull and from there on I was in love with genre.

Many musicians make music they want to hear and I don't think I'm any different. There's a certain style and groove I like and want to hear so I just go make it. The fact it tends to be noisy has little to do with any deep thought process or subconscious meaning. It stems more from something like watching a person wearing a business suit with sneakers fall down, then wondering, "what would the soundtrack to that image be?"

Xian: I got into electronic music in 1984. In the late 80's I was introduced to EBM by a DJ in New York City and was completely blown away!
The music was new and different. It was like, what I've been listening to all this time but amplified 5 times. When I first heard Noize, it had the same effect. New and different. ...And amplified 5 times!
I enjoy creating and playing this style of music because it's what I'm feeling, it's very expressive, insanely intense and simply a lot of fun to play live! It also has extreme potential to become huge.

Jacob: I used to listen to bands like KFMDM and Skinny Puppy a little bit here and there, but I didn't really start getting into electronic/industrial music until I met Mike Jezzy about 4 years ago. Since that time it's become a favorite genre for me. I like creating this kind of music because of the energy behind it, both through the music we create and through the people that listen to it.

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A lot of people seem to think that power noise is meant to be very straight-forward and repetitive (e.g. boring and bland). How do you guys keep your music fresh and interesting?

Mike J: I like to dance and like to make music that I'd dance to. Whether my music is original or not, I make what I like and if it comes out original than that's great. I don't set out to be groundbreaking, but I do put a lot of time and effort into the engineering and programming and hope people can respect that.

Xian: Well, for "State of Ruin" the three of us coming together with different musical backgrounds, different styles of writing and ridiculous amounts of creativity, we really worked on combining all of those elements to come up with something original and complex.

Mike T: Honestly I have no idea. We just jump in the studio and start working and the finished product comes out and people like it. We make music we want to hear and because there are four of us we draw from a lot of influences. Also, being fans of both old and new styles/genres of music keeps us constantly changing. So maybe we're on the wave and it sounds new, or we may be ten years behind and sound old which the older fans like and the younger fans aren't familiar with so it sounds new.

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According to your website, Alter Der Ruine is comprised of four members. How do you guys divide up the production duties between all of you?

Jacob: I came into the band after the new album was finished, but from just observing them work, and working on other things with them, it's a very open creative process. Everyone works on their part, giving feedback on whatever is being worked on, and then bring it all together.

Mike T: It's pretty much a free for all in the writing stages. Everyone works separately then brings it in like show and tell hour. From there it gets mashed up and turned into magic. Noise magic, which is slightly less lame than it sounds.

When everything is done and ready to be mixed down Mike J. steps forward. He has a lot of engineering skill and can get those really huge kicks and fill out the songs nicely so that no frequency is too lonely. Keep an eye out for him as we're all positive he'll be popping up on records very soon.

Mike J: Yeah, we work independently then bring it together and if someone has a good idea we see it through. Then I take it and work on the engineering and design and overall production.

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Obviously, multiple members should make for a very interesting live show (from the images on your website the live shows look quite intense!). Since I, and a ton of other people, unfortunately don’t live on the west coast, can you describe the Alter Der Ruine live experience for us? Are you guys planning on doing more tours in the future?

Jacob: Lots, and lots of energy! At any given time there are at least two of us playing drums. The more we move and get into the live show, the more the crowd gets into it as well. We definitely try to make a lasting impression with our live shows. Someone, who normally wouldn't listen to our music, might become a fan simply because of the live experience.

Xian: Tours in the future? OH YES! We're just getting started! The four of us are all about playing live! Alter Der Ruine live is "A complete live experience". When the band was revised and regrouped, we sat down and decided that we're all musician's with experience, so there is absolutely no reason we shouldn't perform most everything live. In doing so, each show is a little different than the last and you definitely get that "Live" sound and energy!

Mike J: We jump around a lot and jam.

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How do you feel about playing live in general, and how has it affected you as a musician?

Mike J: The more I play live, the more I like to see movement. So I create accordingly and like to move with it.

Xian: I love it! It gives me a sense of satisfaction and wellness. I learn from each show and therefore I feel it has made me a better musician for sure.

Mike T: I love playing live. We all move around a lot and put out a lot of energy. The best noise shows I've been to always have a lot of movement and are very loud. We try to do our part and hope the audience gets involved too. As for musicianship, it's really opened my eyes to dissecting live performances and making me aware of what's being played and what isn't. Not saying it's necessarily a bad thing, just that's it's very intriguing.

Jacob: Playing live is the greatest feeling. It definitely makes it all worth it seeing people dancing and really getting into our music. It pushes me to constantly strive to be a better musician. I want to make each live show better than the last one.

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You’re getting ready to release a new album State of Ruin through Sistinas Records. How was the process of writing and recording this album different from your previous album The Ruine Process? What can we expect from the new album?

Mike J: I wrote the first album alone so I only had my point of view come across. Obviously on the new disc I had insight from my bandmates and we all created and shaped a new view and sound for the band.

Mike T: The new album is a lot different than the first. While The Ruine Process was dark and gritty, the new CD goes to the other end of the spectrum and is a lot more melodic and cleaner sounding. We took some chances too and the results have been pretty interesting. There are songs that stray into hip-hop and electro all while remaining pretty noisy. Don't get me wrong though, it has its heavy moments too.

Jacob: The first album sucked because I wasn't around for it. The second one is slightly better because I was on one track and was hanging out with the guys while it was being written. The one you should really look out for is album #3. It's gonna be all me baby!! Actually, I have no idea. I shouldn't have been allowed to answer this one...

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How have your expectations, goals, and/or dreams (music related or otherwise) changed since you began this project?

Mike J: I think it's the greatest thing in the world to be able to travel and play music with my friends. Everyone's so supportive in this scene and I'm happy to have met so many awesome friendly people.

Mike T: They've seen fruition. That's more than I had ever imagined for myself in this area. It's great to be working with such great people and actually witnessing results from our hard work. Everyday we're seeing new doors open up and that alone is more than enough incentive to keep doing what we love.

Xian: For me, having been in and out of so many projects over the years, it feels great to finally be working with a group of guys that are all on the same sheet of music. We write and play well together, we all get along great, and we make shit happen! All I can say is to follow your dreams, work hard at what you do and NEVER GIVE UP!

Jacob: Being in the band has shown me just how much time, effort, and hard work really has to go into it if you want your band to be successful. It's definitely put things in perspective for me, but I'm working with an awesome group of guys that share the same love for music, so it makes all the hard work completely worth it.

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What do you think the future of “industrial” music is? What about specifically the “noisey” subgenres of industrial?

Mike T: The future pulls from the past and music will more than likely return to something familiar. There's huge debates over what industrial is and where it's going and coming from and at this point I don't really read into it much. I like the music, one thing inspires another and therein rests the only part I really admire which is the inspiration and creativity.

I actually get kind of tired of hearing people claiming they're blazing new trails. While there are a uncharted paths out there, there's a lot of conquered ground with many different flags in it. People should just do what they like and leave it at that.

BUT, If I had to list a few artists I'm really enjoying at the moment I'd have to say Endif, Marching Dynamics, Noisuf-X, The Operative, Ulver and the newest Melotron.

Mike J: All music is influenced by all music. Having that said, things are going to morph and change, hopefully for the better. As long as electronic music stays strong, industrial will always have a scene. As for the noise subgenres, there are changes going on in it right now and it's hard to foresee where it's going. People will always like aggressive music and if it's translated to the electronic genre then noise will more than likely have a home.

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What do you foresee in the future of Alter Der Ruine?

Jacob: Lots of touring, another awesome album, and possibly a straight-to-home-video movie deal. =)

Xian: ADR - The Rolling Stones of the underground!
I'd like to see us releasing albums and touring when we're 65!
LOL! 8 - )

Mike J: We're going to keep making music and hopefully people like it. We'll always change so things will probably sound different from album to album.

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Any last words?

Xian: I'd like to thank everyone who supports us and the underground music scene. THANK YOU!

Mike J: Endif, The Operative and Caustic rule!

Thanks so much for taking the time to do this interview. Wounds of the Earth wishes Alter Der Ruine much success in the future!
 

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